Not to go into too much detail, but I work in a fun industry which revolves around a ton of really creative people with awesome design sense.
Let me show you! Here are two examples of "logos" i've been given recently:
Exhibit A.
Note the weird Pixar-esque look of this picture. Note the lack of company name and text of any kind.
And here is an email snippet for Exhibit B. Of course I blurred some info to protect... well, me. I'm sorry, but that doesn't count either.
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